Can I Beat The Demi-fiend In Shin Megami Tensei V Without Demons ?

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A challenge to defeat the Dummy Fiend in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne on the Nintendo Switch without using demons, played on hard mode, and without changing affinities was undertaken by Deus, following feedback from viewers. The fight required careful planning, strategic skill use, and a bit of luck to overcome the final boss known for its extreme difficulty, with strategies like vitality boosting, elemental attacks, and critical hits playing a crucial role in achieving success.

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  • Deus undertook a challenging battle against the Dummy Fiend in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, the game's toughest boss, following strict rules like no demons in combat, hard mode, and no use of Demifinn's essence, showcasing a dedication to overcoming extreme difficulty in gaming.
  • Strategic planning, skill selection, and a bit of luck were crucial in defeating the Dummy Fiend, requiring precise execution of tactics like incapacitating key enemies with sleep gems, utilizing critical hits and concentrated gems for increased damage, and leveraging specific demon essences and skills for resistance and damage output optimization.

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  • How was the Dummy Fiend challenge undertaken?

    Deus completed the challenge on the Nintendo Switch.

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Summary

00:00

"Defeating Dummy Fiend in Shin Megami Tensei"

  • Six months ago, a video was made showcasing beating Himagami 10C5 without using demons, but the Dummy Fiend, the game's toughest boss, was not challenged initially.
  • After viewer comments, the decision was made to fight the Dummy Fiend following three rules: no demons in combat, play on hard mode, and not use the Demifinn's essence to change affinities.
  • The challenge was undertaken on the Nintendo Switch by Deus, who had previously completed Himagami 10C5 without demons.
  • The Dummy Fiend is the final boss in the DLC quest "Return of the True Demon" in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, known for its extreme difficulty.
  • The Dummy Fiend summons three demons at the start of the fight, each with powerful abilities like healing, buffing, debuffing, and dealing damage.
  • The Dummy Fiend has seven demons in total, with a specific order of summoning and a move called "Call Allies" that triggers a devastating attack called "Gaia Rage" if not interrupted.
  • The Dummy Fiend resists all elements and has powerful physical and almighty attacks, making it challenging to deal damage effectively.
  • The intended strategy is to prevent Gaia Rage by killing demons, but solo play makes this difficult due to the demons' resilience and the Dummy Fiend's powerful attacks.
  • An alternative strategy was considered, focusing on increasing vitality to survive Gaia Rage, with research indicating a need for 400 vitality to minimize damage.
  • To reach 400 vitality, 252 vitality bombs were required, leading to the realization that 15 new game cycles were needed to collect all the necessary bombs.

14:25

"Strategic Tips for Challenging Demifin Battle"

  • Pixie must be taken out quickly in the fight against Mephene to prevent healing; Pixie is weak to dark attacks.
  • Modobarion is effective against Pixie due to her weakness to dark attacks.
  • Mephene has no specific weakness, so the choice between physical, magical, or mixed attacks is crucial.
  • Using magic attacks is fitting for the challenge run, with ice age chosen to bypass Mephene's elemental resistances.
  • Passive skills like Enduring Souls, Abyssal Mask, and boosts to ice attacks are essential for survival and damage output.
  • Drain physical and null force are added to cover weaknesses in the build.
  • Chaotic Will is a dangerous attack by Demifin, halving turn count and potentially insta-killing; strategies like Abyssal Mask and Enduring Soul are crucial.
  • Sealing Mephene with seal gems can prevent the use of Mediarahan, a healing spell, crucial for the fight's success.
  • Using concentrated gems and critical hits strategically can boost damage output and increase chances of success.
  • The fight against Demifin is a long and challenging battle, requiring careful planning, strategic use of skills, and a bit of luck to overcome.

30:06

"Strategic Gem Use Defeats King of Chaos"

  • Used a sleep gem to incapacitate Demi Finn, Giri, Mikala, and Kuhlin, followed by a dispel charm to remove debuffs, allowing Cerberus to attack Megidolian while the demon stayed asleep.
  • Activated the concentrate gem, filled the Makatoui bar, and defeated the King of Chaos using Omega to keep critical for the final blow.
  • Realized optimal strategies post-fight, including the importance of Ali Lat demon essence for resistances, the critical zealot skill for boosted damage, and the impact of physical immunity on Demi Finn's moveset.
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