JRE MMA Show #155 with Max Holloway

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UFC fighter discusses strategies, vulnerabilities, and challenges in recent fights, emphasizing the importance of speed, training, and mindset in the sport. Planning to retire on their terms and explore new opportunities post-career, prioritizing legacy over money.

Insights

  • Fighters like Conor McGregor and Dustin Poirier faced significant injuries during fights, highlighting the physical toll of MMA matches.
  • The importance of durability and resilience in absorbing strikes, like leg kicks, was emphasized in fighters like Max Holloway.
  • The significance of timing and technique in executing signature moves, such as the Rolling Thunder Kick, was discussed in detail.
  • The impact of fame and recognition post-fight on fighters like Max Holloway, with newfound attention from diverse audiences, was explored.
  • The strategy of prioritizing speed over strength in training camps, focusing on a specific combination for fight effectiveness, was a key aspect of preparation.
  • The discussion on rule variations and their impact on fighting strategies, such as kneeing or kicking a downed opponent, highlighted the complexity of adapting to different regulations.

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Summary

00:00

Navigating Time Zones and Odd Fight Hours

  • Joe Rogan podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, Train by day, podcast by night
  • Dealing with jet lag for fights, acclimating to different time zones
  • Fighting in Abu Dhabi on Fight Island, adjusting to weird fight times
  • UK card with main card starting at 3:00 a.m., challenges for fans
  • Pay-per-view time schedules, American vs. rest of the world
  • Watching fights at odd hours, planning around early morning fights
  • Career phases and perceptions, Max's career trajectory and age
  • Max's fighting style, rolling with shots, angles, and volume
  • Max's fight against Justin Gaethje, being dropped but not counted as a knockdown
  • Fighters' vulnerabilities, body's warning signs, Conor McGregor's broken leg in fight against Dustin Poirier

12:02

Man's resilience and strategy against leg kicks.

  • The man had a fracture that was initially inconclusive on MRI but turned out to be badly hurt.
  • Bone bruises can be mistaken for fractures, causing uncertainty.
  • Despite the pain, the man's movement wasn't compromised during the fight.
  • Different individuals react differently to leg kicks, with some swelling up and struggling to move.
  • The man's durability was highlighted, with comparisons to other fighters who suffered from leg kicks.
  • Anecdotes were shared about humorous incidents and interactions with other fighters.
  • The man's strategy and preparation for his opponent's signature move, the Rolling Thunder Kick, were discussed.
  • The unique style and flexibility of the opponent's leg kicks were noted, causing surprise and admiration.
  • Plans for potential future fights and weight classes were mentioned, including a possible rematch with a familiar opponent.
  • The significance and impact of holding the BMF belt were emphasized, with reflections on its value and the emotions it brings to fights.

23:50

Max's Memorable Knockout and Rising Fame

  • Dana had a memorable quote at the post-fight press conference about selling "holy [__]" moments and the impact of peers' reactions.
  • Max considers his knockout of Justin Gaethje as the greatest of all time due to overcoming odds and the dramatic finish.
  • Max reflects on the lasting impact of fights in MMA, emphasizing the significance of each performance.
  • Max details his thoughts and actions during the final moments of the fight, including his countdown to victory and the Rolling Thunder move.
  • The aftermath of the fight led to Max being recognized more widely, with his knockout gaining immense popularity on social media platforms.
  • Max discusses the surreal feeling of newfound fame and recognition post-fight, noting the increased attention from various demographics.
  • Max contemplates potential future fights, including a matchup with Conor McGregor and the possibility of becoming a three-division champion.
  • Max reveals his current weight and training regimen, highlighting the focus on speed over strength in preparation for fights.
  • Max acknowledges the importance of documenting his training on his YouTube channel, showcasing his dedication to fitness and preparation.
  • Max's team prioritized speed over strength in preparation for the fight against Gaethje, emphasizing their strategy to outgun their opponent.

35:54

Fighter's Speed Training and Conditioning Priorities

  • The fighter emphasizes the importance of speed in his training, focusing on a combination that hurt his opponent in the fifth round.
  • He prioritizes speed and conditioning over strength, with a 12-week training period leading up to the fight.
  • Stats comparison between him and his opponent reveal his advantage in experience and fights in the UFC.
  • The fighter discusses his training routine, including taking two weeks off before a fight and the importance of maintaining speed and conditioning.
  • He mentions a famous picture of his opponent punching him in the face and the short notice for the fight.
  • The fighter highlights the impact of his wife on his diet and training, emphasizing the importance of clean eating.
  • Despite challenges, he acknowledges his opponent's skills and expresses interest in a potential third fight.
  • The conversation shifts to the importance of hygiene in combat sports, with a recommendation for Defense Soap to prevent infections.
  • The fighter shares his training timeline for the fight, with 10 to 12 weeks of preparation and a focus on maintaining speed while gaining muscle.
  • His coach plays a crucial role in balancing strength and conditioning, emphasizing the need for endurance and speed in the fight.

47:27

Max's Identity Crisis and Champion Mindset

  • Max discusses his identity crisis due to being known for one thing but enjoying other activities like streaming on kick.com during fights.
  • He criticizes those who comment negatively on fighters unwinding with video games during training camps.
  • Max emphasizes the importance of having a champion mindset for improvement and positivity in any endeavor.
  • He shares his unconventional method of learning strikes from video games and implementing them in real life.
  • Max details the process of practicing the jump spinning back kick, focusing on timing, distance, and technique.
  • He credits his coach Ivan for introducing effective strategies like setting up strikes based on opponents' tendencies.
  • Max highlights the benefits of smaller training camps for individual focus and improvement, contrasting them with larger, more competitive environments.
  • He candidly reveals his pre-fight nerves and self-doubt, which transform into motivation once he enters the octagon.
  • Max describes the mental shift he undergoes during his walkout, transitioning from doubt to determination.
  • He reflects on the significance of his walkout song, "Hawaiian Superman," and the visual effects created during his entrance at UFC 300.

58:10

Fighters' Walkout Songs and Unique Styles

  • Fighters were asked to choose walkout songs, with Justin's song having a unique light display synchronized to the beat.
  • Polon's walkout was particularly intimidating, with a dramatic entrance and menacing demeanor.
  • A young boy mimicked various fighters' styles at a press conference, showcasing his talent.
  • Mighty Mouse was praised as a top martial artist, with exceptional skills and versatility.
  • Yuri Prossus considered moving down to 185, having not cut weight for a previous fight.
  • Yuri's unique fighting style, with hands down and chin forward, was discussed, along with his Samurai-like demeanor.
  • Yuri's fight style was described as distinct and instantly recognizable.
  • The intense fight between Dustin and Justin was highlighted, with Justin's strategy of backing off after hurting Dustin explained.
  • Justin's pre-fight statement about not making plans post-fight was noted for its intensity.
  • A controversial knockout involving Jamal Hill and Paja was analyzed, focusing on a moment of confusion and a potential advantage taken.

01:10:55

Fighters Take Control: Referees, Strategies, and Outcomes

  • Emphasizes the importance of not leaving fights in the hands of judges or referees, urging fighters to take control of their own outcomes.
  • Discusses the potential risks of referees stopping fights prematurely and the need for clear protocols in such situations.
  • Highlights the need for fighters to be prepared for unexpected interruptions during fights and the impact it can have on momentum.
  • Raises questions about the rules and expectations when a referee intervenes in a fight, particularly regarding fighter responses.
  • Analyzes the positioning and actions of fighters and referees during a specific fight, emphasizing strategic moves and potential advantages.
  • Praises a fighter's power and skill, comparing him to a mythical warrior and acknowledging his dominance in the sport.
  • Reflects on a significant fight outcome, attributing success to a well-executed move and the fighter's strategic planning.
  • Recounts personal experiences and interactions with fighters, detailing their perspectives on fights and outcomes.
  • Criticizes speculative comments and predictions in fights, emphasizing the unpredictability and complexity of martial arts competitions.
  • Compares the speed and impact of a fighter's signature move to legendary boxers, highlighting the effectiveness and uniqueness of the technique.

01:23:01

Javante's Speed and Power in Fighting

  • Javante is praised for his speed and power, particularly his left hook, which is considered one of the fastest.
  • Javante's strategy involves quick, powerful punches from short distances, avoiding jabs and surprising opponents.
  • Javante's unconventional behavior, like coming in overweight for a fight, is seen as a strategic move to throw off opponents.
  • In a fight, Javante experienced what was perceived as bad refereeing, with two knockdowns not being counted.
  • Despite the controversial fight, Javante retained his title, leading to discussions about the significance of titles in the fight game.
  • A fighter's career can change drastically in one fight, as seen with Ben Asran's knockout and subsequent loss of dominance.
  • Max Holloway's unique fighting style involves planned strategies, like standing in the center of the cage in the last 10 seconds of a round.
  • Jamal Hill's quick turnaround to fight Khalil Roundtree is questioned due to the latter's aggressive fighting style and recent knockout.
  • Khalil Roundtree's improved fighting style after training in Thailand is highlighted, showcasing his adaptability and skill.
  • The debate over rules in fighting, like kneeing or kicking a downed opponent, is discussed, emphasizing the impact of rules on fighters' strategies and safety.

01:34:59

Enhancing MMA Rules for Fighter Safety

  • In Pride, fighters like Mark Coleman could knee opponents in the head when they were turtled, a move not allowed in the UFC.
  • Turtling in the UFC provides a brief rest for fighters, but it's a vulnerable position due to the inability to knee opponents in the head.
  • The back of the head rule is strictly enforced, but soccer kicks to the head are effective against turtled opponents.
  • Fighters who understand the rules and positions can protect themselves effectively, avoiding vulnerable situations.
  • The 12 to six elbow rule, based on breaking bricks, is considered unnecessary and illogical by some fighters.
  • The cage in MMA poses challenges for techniques like soccer kicks and stomps due to limited space.
  • Suggestions include prohibiting knees and stomps when a fighter is touching the cage, altering the fighting environment to a flat surface without a cage.
  • Starting each round in the same position as the end of the previous round could change the dynamics of fights, encouraging fighters to work harder to improve their positions.
  • The idea of starting each round in the same position as the end of the previous round is seen as a way to make fights more realistic and challenging.
  • Eliminating weight cutting through hydration tests and offering more weight class options every 10 pounds is proposed to improve fighter safety and fairness.

01:46:02

UFC Fighters' Natural Weight and Hydration

  • UFC conducts random drug tests to ensure fighters are competing at their natural weight
  • Suggestion to use hydration scales to determine fighters' appropriate weight class
  • Example of a fighter being heavier than their designated weight class due to dehydration
  • Mention of fighters like George St Pierre being naturally heavier than their fighting weight
  • Reference to Hamza Chimaev being significantly heavier than his previous weight class
  • Discussion on New York's strict weight-cutting regulations
  • Example of a fighter being close to making weight but not given the opportunity
  • Mention of fighters like Nate Diaz and Kevin Holland facing unexpected opponents due to last-minute changes
  • Analysis of Kamaru Usman's fight strategy against Hamza Chimaev
  • Importance of recovery time after a knockout and the impact on a fighter's performance

01:57:35

Fighters' Recovery and Respect in MMA

  • Young Buck should have taken time off to recover after a head injury, but he rushed back into fighting.
  • Justin took six months off after a fight, emphasizing the importance of rest and recovery.
  • Young Buck should have prioritized his well-being over fighting, considering his family and health.
  • Toria's knockout of Young Buck was impressive due to his technique and power.
  • Toria's knockout technique involved analyzing where the opponent's head would be and throwing a powerful strike.
  • Toria's victory over Herbert showcased his skill despite being in a weight class not ideal for him.
  • Alexander Volkanovski should have avoided taking a fight on short notice without proper training.
  • DC's weight and love for food impacted his fighting career, potentially affecting his performance.
  • MMA fighters should show respect to their opponents, whether they win or lose, to maintain sportsmanship.
  • The fight between Yan XA Nan and Jean Way showcased the toughness and dedication of international fighters.

02:09:17

"BMF Belt Open to Women, Legacy Focused"

  • Dana White was asked about creating a BMF belt for women, to which he responded that the BMF is forever and open to anyone.
  • There is a discussion about Kay Harrison challenging for the BMF title, with the idea of a female BMF being considered.
  • The fighter talks about never receiving an "and new" title after winning fights, finally getting it after a recent victory.
  • Dana White hinted at changes coming after the fighter's recent win, leading to anticipation for what's next.
  • The fighter mentions a 30-day no-contact period post-fight, a standard practice in the industry.
  • There is a mention of an opponent who drinks wine before fights to relax and avoid dehydrating for weight cuts.
  • The fighter emphasizes fighting for legacy over money, aiming to hold both belts and secure a money fight.
  • A confident declaration is made about deciding when and where fights happen, with a reference to a potential opponent.
  • The fighter praises an opponent's kicking skills, highlighting the need to adapt strategies when facing such a fighter.
  • Anecdotes are shared about past fights and opponents, showcasing the unpredictability and excitement of the sport.

02:21:00

"Max Holloway: Peaceful Fighter with Hidden Monster"

  • Max Holloway is described as a peaceful and friendly person, but possesses a hidden monster inside him.
  • Despite his unassuming appearance, Max Holloway has proven himself as a formidable fighter, even when underestimated by others.
  • Dan Henderson is praised for his skills and iconic logo, with his knockout of Fedor Emelianenko highlighted.
  • Max Holloway's recent victory at UFC 300 is discussed, with Justin Gaethje being favored to win the fight.
  • Max Holloway's spinning back kick is emphasized for its power and effectiveness in fights.
  • Mike Tyson's upcoming fight against Jake Paul is analyzed, with a focus on Tyson's physical condition and training.
  • The exhibition fight between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is anticipated, with attention to the use of 16-ounce gloves and two-minute rounds.
  • Jake Paul's dedication to training and his team, including former world champion John Love, is acknowledged.
  • The potential match between Anthony Joshua and Francis Ngannou is discussed, with Joshua's skill and Olympic background highlighted.
  • The difference in skill levels between Anthony Joshua and Francis Ngannou is emphasized, with Joshua's technical abilities praised.

02:33:14

Boxer plans strategic retirement for post-career success.

  • Joshua's boxing match showcased his speed and strength, contrasting with Tyson Fury's style.
  • The right hand punch that knocked down his opponent was executed flawlessly, setting up by targeting the body with jabs.
  • Despite a desire to box, the individual acknowledges the limitations due to UFC commitments and the need for profitable fights.
  • Planning to retire around 35-36, the individual aims to leave the sport on their terms, avoiding overstaying and focusing on post-career ventures like streaming and podcasting.
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